---
title: "IETF Community Moderation"
category: bcp
abbrev: "IETF Community Moderation"
number: 9945
seriesno: 245
docname: draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-latest
category: bcp
submissiontype: IETF
number:
date:
consensus: true
v: 3
ipr: trust200902
obsoletes: 3683, 3934
updates: 2418, 9245
venue:
    mail: mod-discuss@ietf.org
    github: larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes
    latest: https://larseggert.github.io/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes.html
pi: [toc, symrefs, sortrefs]
v: 3
lang: en
date: 2026-02
area: GEN
workgroup: modpod
keyword:

author:
-
    name: Lars Eggert
    role: editor
    org: Mozilla
    street: Stenbergintie 12 B
    city: Kauniainen
    code: "02700"
    country: FI
    email: lars@eggert.org
    uri: <https://eggert.org/> https://eggert.org/
-
    name: Eliot Lear
    role: editor
    org: Cisco Systems
    street: Richtistrasse 7
    code: "8304"
    city: Wallisellen
    country: Switzerland
    phone: "+41 44 878 9200"
    email: lear@lear.ch

normative:

informative:
  IESG-SPAM:
    title: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists
    date: 2008-04-18 2008-04-14
    author:
       - org: IESG
    target: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/statement-iesg-iesg-statement-on-spam-control-on-ietf-mailing-lists-20080414/
  AHP:
    title: IETF Anti-Harassment Policy
    date: 2013-11-03
    author:
        - org: IESG
    target: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/anti-harassment-policy/
  OT:
    title: Ombudsteam
    date: false
    target: https://www.ietf.org/contact/ombudsteam/
  MODML:
    title: IESG Guidance on the Moderation of IETF Working Group Mailing Lists
    date: 2000-08-29
    author:
        - org: IESG
    target: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/mailing-lists-moderation/
  DP:
    title: IESG Statement on Disruptive Posting
    date: 2006-02-16 2006-02-17
    author:
        - org: IESG
    target: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/disruptive-posting/

--- abstract

The IETF community will treat people with kindness and grace, but not endless patience.

This memo obsoletes RFCs 3683 and 3934, and it updates RFCs 2418 and 9245 by
establishing a policy for the moderation of disruptive
participation
across the IETF's various public contribution channels and discussion fora.
It establishes guardrails
for moderation and a moderator team.  That team will develop a
set of moderation procedures and facilitate their consistent implementation with
chairs and administrators.
--- middle

# Introduction

This memo establishes a policy for the moderation of disruptive
participation
across the IETF's various public online contribution channels and discussion fora.
It creates a
moderator team to develop procedures and to facilitate their consistent
application.

This memo obsoletes and updates some prior IETF processes, summarized here.
Background information is described in more detail in {{motivation}}.

This memo makes the following changes to existing processes:

- Obsoletes {{?RFC3683}} as the "posting rights" (PR) action it defines
  are
  is replaced by processes defined herein;
- Obsoletes {{?RFC3934}} as it replaces working group moderation
  procedures;
- Obsoletes {{Section 3 of ?RFC9245}} and the second paragraph of
  {{Section 4 of ?RFC9245}}, as the moderator team replaces the
  IETF discussion list moderation team.
- Updates {{Section 6.1 of !RFC2418}}, because the moderator team will
  work together with working group chairs to moderate disruptive
  behavior.

The processes described in this memo are solely applicable to IETF
activities, and not to other related organizations, such as
the Internet Research Task Force (IRTF),
the Internet Architecture Board (IAB),
the RFC Series Working Group (RSWG), the RFC Series Approval Board (RSAB),
or the Independent RFC Submission Stream, without their explicit agreement.
These changes take effect when the procedures described
in {{prod}} have been approved by the IESG.

## Terminology Note

Below,

In this document, the term "administrator" refers to the people who
are assigned by the IESG to manage a particular public participation
channel or discussion forum. This memo uses the term "forum"
to refer to any public IETF participation channel, such as a mailing list,
chat group, or discussion in a collaborative tool such as GitHub or
GitLab. For example, working
group chairs are administrators of all the public fora that their working groups
use, which typically includes mailing lists and chat groups, but might
also include collaborative tools such as GitHub or GitLab. Another example
of administrators are the
The "owners" of non-WG IETF mailing lists. lists are another example of administrators.

## General Philosophy {#genphil}

This policy's cornerstone of this policy is that individuals are responsible for
furthering the goals of the IETF as an organization {{!RFC3935}}
in a manner consistent with the policy laid out in {{!RFC7154}}.

Disagreement and diverse points of view within any standards organization
are to be expected, expected and are even healthy.
The IETF is an open standards organization with a discussion-based rough
consensus process, a non-normative description of which is in {{?RFC7282}}.
Engaged, respectful discussion that is within the scope of an IETF forum
should therefore not be considered disruptive,
nor should someone be considered disruptive solely because they are outside
the rough consensus.
However, when someone crosses the line
into disruptive behavior, some action must be taken in order to maintain
decorum of the community.

The moderation policy goals are as follows:

- Apply consistent, fair, and timely moderation of communication across all public
  online IETF participation channels and participation fora
  without regard to a participant's role in the IETF or previous technical
  contributions;
- Appeals Ensure appeals are available to address disagreements about moderation actions;
- Balance transparency against both privacy of individuals involved and further
  disruption to the community;
- Allow moderation decisions to be reconsidered; and
- Provide the broadest possible latitude to all people doing moderation, so
  that they have the flexibility to address a broad range of individuals
  and circumstances.

Questions about the processes detailed below should be answered through the lens
of these aims.

The goal objective is explicitly **not** punishment, but to maintain an open,
welcoming, non-hostile environment in which all may participate on an
equal footing, regardless of their role in the IETF or past technical
contributions.

# IETF Moderator Team

This memo defines a consistent approach to moderating the
IETF's various public online fora. A moderator team for the IETF
will develop and maintain guidelines for moderation and will facilitate
their consistent implementation and application as detailed below.
These changes are intended to address the issues identified
in the previous model {{motive}} (see {{motive}}) and the principles described in the
introduction.

## Composition

The IESG appoints and recalls moderators.
The moderator team initially consists of no fewer than five individuals.
The moderator team may expand or contract
based on operational experience.
In selecting members, the IESG will take into
account geographic coverage, expected and unexpected absences, and
team diversity.

Because the IESG and IAB are in the appeals chain for moderator team
decisions (see {{appeals}}), the IESG must not appoint a
moderator who is serving on the IESG or IAB. Individuals serving on
other bodies to which the NomCom appoints members, such as the IETF
Trust or the LLC Board, as well as LLC staff and contractors contractors, shall
also be excluded from serving on the moderator team. If a moderator
is assuming
assumes any such role, they shall step down from the moderator team
soon after.

### Team Diversity

Due to the global nature of the IETF, the membership of this team
should reflect a diversity of time zones and other participant
characteristics that lets it operate effectively around the clock and
throughout the year. Ideally, the moderators should be able to
respond to issues within a few hours.

Team diversity is also important to ensure any participant observing
disruptive behavior can identify a moderator they feel comfortable
contacting.

## Training

The IETF is committed to providing and/or funding training for
administrators and moderators as necessary. The IESG will
negotiate any required funding or resources with IETF Administration
LLC {{?RFC8711}}.

# Scope and Responsibilities

This policy applies to all public online IETF fora, both present and
future, including, but not limited to, mailing lists, chat groups,
and discussions in other systems that the IETF or WGs have chosen to
employ, such as GitHub repositories, wikis, or issue trackers.

Different people have different moderation responsibilities:

- **Participants** should always behave in a the manner discussed in
{{genphil}}.  They are also encouraged to report disruptive behavior
directed at them or someone else to an administrator of the respective
forum **and** the moderators.

- **Administrators** are primarily responsible for managing their fora in
accordance with procedures developed by the moderators and approved by
the IESG. As such, they shall address reports of disruptive behavior
in a timely fashion, apprising moderators of reports or actions taken.
Administrators may amend or rescind actions, including those taken by
members of the moderation team **after** they have consulted with that team.

  For a working group, chairs are by default the administrators.  They may
delegate this responsibility in the same vein as {{Section 6.4 of RFC2418}} RFC2418}},
but they must always accept, acknowledge,
and keep track of complaints of disruptive behavior.
Forum administrators should perform moderation in a way that
obviates the need for moderator team involvement.

- **Moderators** are responsible for establishing procedures to
address moderation needs across all IETF fora, both present and
future.  They are a resource that the community
can use to address disruptive behavior.
The moderator team is responsible to the IESG.  The IESG
will create or designate a forum to facilitate discussion about
moderation,
moderation and refer interested parties to that forum.

  Moderators may take actions when administrators do not respond to
reports in a timely fashion.  Their first action should generally be
to attempt to contact and advise the relevant administrators.
They should only take
moderation actions when administrators are not responsive, responsive or when
someone disrupts multiple fora at the same time.  Moderators should
generally give WG chairs the opportunity to
manage what may be difficult and contentious debates within their
groups.  Within the bounds of this principle, it is left to
moderators' judgment to determine when they must act, with the
understanding that some situations may require fast responses.
Moderators must notify administrators of any actions they take.
{{appeals}} discusses the handling of disagreements.

  Moderators are administrators for IETF
plenary fora, currently including the IETF discussion and last-call Last Call
lists and any plenary chat sessions. They are also administrators for
any forum that does not otherwise have an administrator.

  In order to scale the function, except for plenary fora as described
above, moderators are not expected to always actively monitor
all communications.  In general, they will process reports from
participants.

- **Area Directors** directors** are expected to resolve conflicts as described here and
in {{appeals}}.  The IESG will periodically evaluate the performance
and needs of moderators, and may appoint and recall moderators as
they deem appropriate.  Apart from that,
the IESG shall refrain from the day-to-day operation
and management of the moderator team. The moderators may
consult with the IESG when needed.

## Actions That Are Out of Scope

Moderator actions are only permitted for the purposes of limiting
disruptive communications in online IETF fora.  All other actions are beyond
the scope of this memo. Examples of actions that are out of scope include,
but are not limited to, Datatracker account removal; restriction of in-person,
virtual, or hybrid
meeting participation; content removal or redaction; and moderation or
policing of private or non-IETF communications.
While the moderator team does not moderate non-public IETF mailing
lists, the administrators of such lists can choose to adopt some of the
procedures that the moderator team develops.

## Unsolicited Bulk Messages

Unsolicited bulk messages are considered disruptive and should be handled in a
manner consistent with the IESG statement "IESG Statement on IETF Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists{{IESG-SPAM}}, Lists"
{{IESG-SPAM}} or its successors.  Administrators and moderators
may take similar actions in other fora (e.g., GitHub or Instant Messaging). instant messaging).
Such actions require no additional reporting.

# Moderation Procedures and Transparency {#prod}

Within the bounds of the policies set herein, the moderator team shall develop
and maintain procedures and criteria relating to moderation, including
the moderator team's own operating procedures.

Those procedures and criteria shall be developed with community input,
be approved by the IESG prior to going into effect,
and be made public.  However, they need not be documented in the RFC series. Series.  This
shall be the first task for the moderator team.  Until
those procedures and criteria are established, all previous processes
referenced in {{introduction}} shall remain in effect.

The intent of this memo is to provide the widest possible freedom of
action to administrators and moderators, with the expectation that
the minimal actions necessary will be taken.  Those who are directed
to stop disrupting a forum must do so immediately.
Further disruptions may lead to further corrective actions.

Examples of actions that could be taken include:

- Automated rate limiting rate-limiting mechanisms;
- Review and approval of submissions/messages;
- A private or public admonishment;
- Temporary or indefinite suspension of participation privileges
  in one or more fora.

These are only examples, examples and are not in any way
prescriptive. Administrators and moderators are free to decide on
these or other actions.

All moderation actions that restrict participation
privileges shall be immediately reported to those against
whom those actions take effect, to relevant administrators,
and to the moderator team for
their review. They shall also be periodically reported to
the IESG.

Only moderation actions suspending participation privileges for longer than
fourteen (14) days must be reported to the forum to which such an action applies,
or in any event, at the request of the suspended person.
If such an action applies to more than one forum, it should be communicated to
the community in a manner decided by the IESG.

Moderators will periodically provide an aggregate report to the community on
actions taken under this policy.

## Consistency and Conflict Resolution {#appeals}

Administrators and moderators shall act in a manner
consistent with this memo and the guidelines approved by the IESG.  In cases
of disagreement over a moderation decision, anyone may take the matter up
with the responsible Area Director area director for resolution, or with the IETF chair Chair
if a responsible Area Director area director cannot be determined or is not assigned.
If the disagreement cannot be resolved by the Area Director, area director, that person may
then appeal to the IESG, IESG and subsequently to the IAB using the processes
stated in {{Sections 6.5.1 and 6.5.4 of !RFC2026}}.

## Reinstatement

People and circumstances change.  Individuals whose participation
privileges have been indefinitely suspended from a forum may request
reinstatement.
Requests for reinstatement
may be made no earlier than a year after the initial decision, decision and then
only annually afterward.

Any such request must be
directed to the entity who made the decision (e.g., moderator team,
working group chairs, etc.) or their successors.  That party may at
their discretion
reinstate someone, conditionally or unconditionally.

To avoid
denial-of-service attacks on IETF processes, decisions to not reinstate
someone's participation privileges may not be appealed.
Any reinstatement is a grace and not a right.

A suspension of participation privileges imposed prior to this process
shall be reconsidered only in
accordance with the processes in place at the time of the suspension,
even if the corresponding RFC has been formally obsoleted.

# Relationship to other Other IETF functions Functions

## Relation to the Ombudsteam

Administrators and moderators shall complement the efforts of the IETF
ombudsteam
Ombudsteam {{OT}}, whose focus on anti-harassment and operation
shall remain unchanged. Administrators and moderators should always
report suspected harassment.  They should nonetheless take any
necessary actions regarding disruptive behavior.

## Relation to the IETF LLC

The Board of Directors of the IETF Administration LLC (IETF LLC) has
fiduciary duty for the overall organization, which includes the duty
to protect the organization from serious legal risk that may arise
from the behavior of IETF participants.

This protection may include the need for the IETF LLC to take
emergency moderation actions. These emergency actions are expected to
be taken only when the IETF LLC has received legal advice that such
action is necessary, necessary and therefore will be extremely rare in frequency. Some
examples of where this might be necessary are:

- Someone making a credible threat of harm to other IETF participants.
- Someone using IETF mailing lists and/or websites to share content
  where publishing that content on IETF lists and/or websites brings
  serious legal risk to the IETF.
- Someone making a credible threat of legal action where any form of
  interaction with them on IETF mailing lists may have serious legal
  consequences for the IETF.

If any such action is taken, the IETF LLC should, except where
limited by legal advice to the contrary, inform the IESG as soon as
possible, providing full details of the subject of the action, nature
of the action, reason for the action action, and the expected duration. The IETF
LLC should also inform the moderator team and IETF community, except
where it receives legal advice to the contrary.

As such an action would be taken by the IETF LLC in order to protect
the IETF according to its fiduciary duty, then it cannot allow that
to be overridden by a decision of the moderator team or the IESG.
The subject of any such action may request a review by the IETF LLC
board,
Board, as documented in {{Section 4.7 of !RFC8711}}.

Any such action taken by the IETF LLC under this section of this
policy is not subject to the rest of this policy.

# Security Considerations

The usual security considerations {{?RFC3552}} do not apply to this
memo.

There is the potential abuse of the moderation procedures by moderators,
working group chairs, and potentially others that could lead to
censorship of legitimate participation. This potential risk is mitigated in
eight ways:

1. {{prod}} requires the moderator team to first establish procedures
that are intended to apply uniformly across the IETF.
2. {{genphil}} explicitly states that viewpoints outside the rough
consensus are not in and of themselves disruptive.
3. {{prod}} provides transparency by requiring that moderation actions
that restrict participation privileges be immediately reported
to the affected person and to the moderation team, and
periodically reported to the IESG.
4. That same section {{prod}} also requires that the community be informed in the case
of suspensions lasting longer than 14 days.
5. {{appeals}} lays out an appeals process in the case of
disagreements.
6. If moderators find that the procedures themselves are leading to
inappropriate moderation, {{prod}} allows them to update those procedures
in consultation with the community, community and with the approval of the IESG.
7. If IETF participants believe that either the IESG or the IAB are not performing
their respective oversight functions as described in this document, they may
comment to the NomCom {{!BCP10}} or the community at large.
8. Finally, if it appears that these processes are not functioning
properly, the policies stated in this memo may be amended.
They are not set in stone.

Moderation actions are intended to limit the likelihood
of disruptive behavior by a few IETF participants from discouraging that may discourage
participation by other IETF participants.

# IANA Considerations

No

This document has no IANA actions are requested. actions.

# Acknowledgments

This memo is based on two individual Internet-Drafts,
[draft-ecahc-moderation](<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ecahc-moderation/>)
authored by Lars Eggert, Alissa Cooper, Jari Arkko, Russ Housley {{{Lars Eggert}}}, {{{Alissa Cooper}}}, {{{Jari Arkko}}}, {{{Russ Housley}}}, and Brian {{{Brian E.
Carpenter,
Carpenter}}}, and
[draft-lear-bcp83-replacement](<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lear-bcp83-replacement/>)
authored by Eliot Lear, Robert Wilton, Bron Gondwana {{{Eliot Lear}}}, {{{Robert Wilton}}}, {{{Bron Gondwana}}}, and John {{{John R. Levine.
Robert Sayre Levine}}}.
{{{Robert Sayre}}} authored
[draft-sayre-modpod-excellent](<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sayre-modpod-excellent/>),
which also originated ideas reflected in this work.  Pete Resnick  {{{Pete Resnick}}} provided the
basis for how the moderators interact with list/forum leadership.

These individuals contributed additional improvements:

- Alissa Cooper {{{Alissa Cooper}}}
- Brian Carpenter {{{Brian Carpenter}}}
- Chris Box {{{Chris Box}}}
- Colin Perkins {{{Colin Perkins}}}
- David Schinazi {{{David Schinazi}}}
- Eric Rescorla {{{Eric Rescorla}}}
- Jay Daley {{{Jay Daley}}}
- Joel Halpern {{{Joel Halpern}}}
- John Klensin {{{John Klensin}}}
- John Scudder {{{John Scudder}}}
- Martin Thomson {{{Martin Thomson}}}
- Melinda Shore {{{Melinda Shore}}}
- Michael Richardson {{{Michael Richardson}}}
- Nick Hilliard {{{Nick Hilliard}}}
- Pete Resnick {{{Pete Resnick}}}
- Rich Salz {{{Rich Salz}}}
- Robert Sayre {{{Robert Sayre}}}
- Russ Housley {{{Russ Housley}}}
- Sean Turner {{{Sean Turner}}}
- Simon Josefsson {{{Simon Josefsson}}}
- Stephen Farrell {{{Stephen Farrell}}}
- Ted Lemon {{{Ted Lemon}}}
- Tim Bray {{{Tim Bray}}}

N.B., acknowledgment should not be taken as endorsement by the
individuals named above.

--- back

# Change History of this I-D

{:aside}
> RFC Editor: Please remove this appendix before publication.

## Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-11

- [clarify when changes take effect](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/238/)
- [Refine security considerations](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/239)
- [Multi group and moderator reversal](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/257/files)
- [Last(?) bits from 2nd last call](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/258)

## Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-10

- Many editorial suggestions received during WGLC.
- [remove attendee mailing lists from moderator primary responsibility](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/181)
- [Correct reference to appeals process.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/149)
  [Also this.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/230)
- [Clarify fora that are out of scope.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/197)
  [Incl. attendees' lists.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/181)
  [Also this.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/235)
- [Clarify WG chairs are default admins but can delegate.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/220)
- [Mod team size guidance.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/231)
- [Chair immediately notify mods and affected parties.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/229)
- [Add all of the available mitigations to risks of censorship.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/232)
- [Clarify AD responsibilities.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/234)

## Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-09

- [Try to find another happy medium on power of moderators](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/147)

## Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-08

- [Address timeliness and exisgent circumstances](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/issues/142)
- [Make clear that moderators should use their judgment on timing](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/143)

## Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-07

- [Pete Resnick issues and similar](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/issues/134)
- [Includes changes to abstract, intro, tweaks to make relationship
  between admins/WG chairs clearer; makes roles clearer,
  moderation team → moderator team.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/135)

## Since draft-ietf-modmod-group-processes-06

- [Normalize handling of moderation across all fora](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/129)
- [Obsolete RFC 3934, explicit admin responsibility](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/132)

## Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-05

- [New attempt to address moderation/WG interactions](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/126)

## Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-04

- [Use plain English instead of BCP 14 language](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/120)

## Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-03

- [Non-normative Examples of Disruptive Behavior](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/121)

## Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-02

- [Say which RFCs this obsoletes and updates.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/105
)
- [Address issue 113](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/116)
- [Rewrite philosophy](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/103)
- [Reinstatement](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/107)
- [Content removal is not moderation.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/109)

## Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-01

- [Update "Relation to the IETF LLC".](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/92)
- [Point to relevant IRTF material.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/97)
- [Add some text to explain the role of moderators.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/100)

## Since draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes-00

- [Spelling fix](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/80)
- [Initial attempt to balance what the moderator defines and what](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/75)
- [Scope and relationship between WG chairs and moderators](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/76)
- [Fix wording, spelling and capitalization.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/88)
- [Editorial changes to acknowledgments.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/87)

## Since draft-ecahc-moderation-01

- Content taken from
  [draft-ecahc-moderation-01](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ecahc-moderation/01/).
  [Updated editors. Acknowledge authors of original pre-WG I-Ds.](https://github.com/larseggert/draft-ietf-modpod-group-processes/pull/65)

# Motivation {#motivation}

{{introduction}} summarized summarizes the process changes introduced by this memo.
This appendix discusses the background that led to them.

## Background

The IETF community has defined general guidelines for
personal interactions in the IETF {{!RFC7154}}, and the {{!RFC7154}}. The IESG has
defined an anti-harassment policy for the IETF {{AHP}} for which the IETF
community has defined anti-harassment procedures {{!RFC7776}},
empowering an ombudsteam Ombudsteam {{OT}} to take necessary action.

Dealing with *disruptive* behavior, however, is not part of the role
of the ombudsteam. Ombudsteam. {{!RFC2418}} tasks the chairs of each IETF working
group with moderating their group's in-person meetings while
{{?RFC3934}} provided provides chairs a procedure to help manage mailing
lists. An IESG statement {{MODML}} described describes additional guidance
to working group chairs about how  -- but not when  -- to moderate their
lists.

For IETF mailing lists not associated with a working group, another
IESG statement {{DP}} clarifies that the IESG tasks list administrators
with moderation. And the IETF list for general discussions
has, mostly for historic reasons, a team of moderators that are not
list administrators and operate by a different set of processes
{{?RFC9245}}.

Note that the term "moderation" can refer both to *preemptive*
moderation, where administrators review attempted participation before
it occurs
(such as reviewing messages to a mailing list), and *reactive* moderation,
where administrators intervene after disruptive participation has occurred.
The
Historically, the
IETF historically has mainly practiced reactive moderation, with a spectrum from
gentle reminders on- and off-list, all the way to suspension of posting rights
and other ways of participating or communicating. It is up to the moderators
and administrators
to decide which mix of preemptive and reactive moderation to employ as
part of their procedures.

In addition, {{?RFC3683}} defines a process for revoking an
individual's posting rights to IETF mailing lists following a
community last-call Last Call of a "posting rights" action (PR-action) proposed
by the IESG, often in response to complaints from the community.

Experience and community input suggests that an evolution of the
existing processes is necessary.

## Problems with the Previous Approach {#motive}

The previous approach to moderation of disruptive participation
through chairs, list administrators, and moderator teams, combined
with the IESG-led process of PR-actions, has proven to be less than
ideal:

- The IETF community has not been able to agree on a common definition
  of disruptive behavior. Therefore, chairs and list administrators
  apply individually different criteria when making decisions, and
  participants have different expectations for when PR-actions are
  warranted.

- The moderation process that chairs and list administrators need to
  follow {{?RFC3934}} is slow and cumbersome, which makes it
  ill-suited to situations that escalate quickly. It also assumes
  that the originator of disruptive behavior is a misguided
  participant who can be reasoned with and who will change their
  ways.

- Chairs and list administrators may only enact moderation actions for
  their single list, which is ill-suited when a pattern of disruptive
  behavior spans multiple lists. Also, chairs and list administrators
  may not be fully aware of disruptive behavior that spans multiple
  lists, due to not being subscribed to some of them.

- PR-actions, which can address disruptive behavior across several
  lists, are cumbersome and cumbersome, slow, and inconsistent. This has
  led to a situation where PR-actions are rarely used, and when they
  are used, they are perceived as very heavy-handed.

- For a given mailing list, participants may not feel comfortable
  reporting disruptive behavior to a chair or list administrator, for
  various reasons. For mailing lists not associated with working
  groups, list administrators are not even publicly identified - -- they
  can only be contacted through an anonymous alias address. This
  exacerbates the problem, because participants may not be
  comfortable reporting disruptive behavior to an anonymous party.

- The IETF offers participation not only through in-person meetings
  and mailing lists, which are the two channels of participation for
  which moderation processes are currently defined. IETF business
  also happens in chat groups, remote meeting participation
  systems, virtual meetings, wikis, GitHub repositories, and more.
  How disruptive behavior is moderated in these fora is currently
  undefined.

# Non-Normative Examples of Disruptive Behavior {#examples}

The list below describes some types of disruptive behavior, but it
is non-exhaustive.

- Discussion of subjects unrelated to a forum's charter or scope;

- Uncivil commentary, regardless of the general subject;

- Messages announcing conferences, events, or activities
  that are not sponsored or endorsed by the Internet Society or IETF,
  unless posted with prior approval of list administrators;

- Repeatedly arguing counter to a WG charter that has been approved by
  the IESG; and

- "Sealioning", where a participant makes incessant requests for evidence or
  data, even while remaining superficially polite.

These items are examples. Moderators and administrators may take moderation
actions for many other cases.

The moderator team's task consists of
subjective judgment calls. Behaviors not listed here might require
moderation, and it is not possible to write a complete list of all such
behaviors.